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		<title>By: WyldKard</title>
		<link>http://beastwith.in/2007/05/17/look-ma-i-found-a-n3wb/comment-page-1/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>WyldKard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At least you signed your first post appropriately, so I know how to address this reply.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dear Ass-Weasel,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There is a common misconception in the WoW community, mainly on the official WoW fora, in which people believe that knowledge of a class comes only through leveling a character of this class to level 70, when the truth is that even retards can level a toon to 70 and not learn a thing about how to properly play said class. Do I even need examples here? Level 70 Hunters who don&#039;t know how to kite or chain trap? Retribution Paladins thinking their spec is raid-worthy &lt;i&gt;right now&lt;/i&gt;? There are numerous &lt;i&gt;general&lt;/i&gt; examples that don&#039;t even consider individual play styles.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In short, I don&#039;t know how &quot;precisely everyone should play,&quot; but I have a pretty damn good idea, which is why my old class guide, linked to from the opening post (OP), was once featured on WoW Insider, and why I can hold my own when it comes to a bit of class theorycrafting. It also helps that I&#039;ve leveled a number of classes fairly high, even if my knowledge of Burning Crusade (BC) raiding isn&#039;t up to snuff compared to pre-BC raid instances.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When it comes to the Maelstrom server, it should not surprise you that I play there. Maelstrom was one of the three original PVP-RP servers that went live, and was the &quot;official&quot; North American PVP-RP server by the old pvp-rp.com community. It also happens to be a server that many Blizzard employees and GMs play(ed) on. And though &quot;RP&quot; is part of its classification, that doesn&#039;t mean you can play how you want if it&#039;s a detriment to the group you&#039;re in. No one cares how you spec, gear, or play when you solo, but the second you join a group to run an instance, you&#039;re committing to their success, and effectively saying, &quot;Even if I don&#039;t play perfect, I&#039;ll do what I can to make this instance run succeed.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sure, having fun is important, but if you&#039;re the only person in a group of five who thinks wiping is fun, then you shouldn&#039;t be grouping with those four other people. Similarly, your pet-less Hunter friend shouldn&#039;t be joining PUGs, because his DPS is gimped by at least 30%, instantly removing him from the DPS-role in a group.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In any case, if you&#039;ve learned over time how to become a better Shaman, then I commend you, because you&#039;ve done more than most players: learn. If trial-and-error has taught you how to better control your aggro and assist your group, then &lt;i&gt;fantastic&lt;/i&gt;. But let&#039;s not suddenly tout about how open-minded you &lt;i&gt;were&lt;/i&gt; when we ran an instance together, because it&#039;s not as if you were willing to oblige me with my suggestions, as indicated in the OP. Else, you would have gladly stopped using Earth Shock for something less aggro intensive, since it was directly brought up to you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for your second post, &lt;i&gt;bravo&lt;/i&gt; on not reading the message about how your first comment won&#039;t be posted until approved by an administrator and immediately posting again with an angrier tone. Never-mind your third comment, consisting only of &quot;Fuck you,&quot; which is exactly what I thought when I deleted it. Either way, you&#039;re not gaining brownie points from any readers with your inability to converse maturely. No doubt, my post infuriated you, which is akin to my annoyance when you wiped or group time and time again because you wouldn&#039;t take a reasonable suggestion or two. Arrogance is a bitch.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So onto totems. You don&#039;t use them? Roll a new toon then, or simply don&#039;t join a PUG without first telling them that you won&#039;t use all the abilities at your disposal, &lt;i ?particularly&lt;/i&gt; those designed to aid the group. A Shaman, in a group, is a support class. Apparently, you haven&#039;t learned that yet.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The reason you should support bile-spewing cretins? Because causing the group to wipe is doing nothing but wasting time and money. I &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;quite specifically&lt;/i&gt; suggested what you could do to improve your (and the group&#039;s) performance, but you chose not to comply, and instead reply rudely.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re Enhancement specced, which means you shouldn&#039;t be blowing through your mana in the first place, especially if you&#039;re pulling aggro. You &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; an off-healer by virtue of being a non-Restoration Shaman in a five-man group. This is not a role that needs to be assigned to you: it&#039;s one you accept upon joining the group.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; want to talk further about this, I&#039;m right here, baby.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yours,
WyldKard&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least you signed your first post appropriately, so I know how to address this reply.</p>

<p>Dear Ass-Weasel,</p>

<p>There is a common misconception in the WoW community, mainly on the official WoW fora, in which people believe that knowledge of a class comes only through leveling a character of this class to level 70, when the truth is that even retards can level a toon to 70 and not learn a thing about how to properly play said class. Do I even need examples here? Level 70 Hunters who don&#8217;t know how to kite or chain trap? Retribution Paladins thinking their spec is raid-worthy <i>right now</i>? There are numerous <i>general</i> examples that don&#8217;t even consider individual play styles.</p>

<p>In short, I don&#8217;t know how &#8220;precisely everyone should play,&#8221; but I have a pretty damn good idea, which is why my old class guide, linked to from the opening post (OP), was once featured on WoW Insider, and why I can hold my own when it comes to a bit of class theorycrafting. It also helps that I&#8217;ve leveled a number of classes fairly high, even if my knowledge of Burning Crusade (BC) raiding isn&#8217;t up to snuff compared to pre-BC raid instances.</p>

<p>When it comes to the Maelstrom server, it should not surprise you that I play there. Maelstrom was one of the three original PVP-RP servers that went live, and was the &#8220;official&#8221; North American PVP-RP server by the old pvp-rp.com community. It also happens to be a server that many Blizzard employees and GMs play(ed) on. And though &#8220;RP&#8221; is part of its classification, that doesn&#8217;t mean you can play how you want if it&#8217;s a detriment to the group you&#8217;re in. No one cares how you spec, gear, or play when you solo, but the second you join a group to run an instance, you&#8217;re committing to their success, and effectively saying, &#8220;Even if I don&#8217;t play perfect, I&#8217;ll do what I can to make this instance run succeed.&#8221;</p>

<p>Sure, having fun is important, but if you&#8217;re the only person in a group of five who thinks wiping is fun, then you shouldn&#8217;t be grouping with those four other people. Similarly, your pet-less Hunter friend shouldn&#8217;t be joining PUGs, because his DPS is gimped by at least 30%, instantly removing him from the DPS-role in a group.</p>

<p>In any case, if you&#8217;ve learned over time how to become a better Shaman, then I commend you, because you&#8217;ve done more than most players: learn. If trial-and-error has taught you how to better control your aggro and assist your group, then <i>fantastic</i>. But let&#8217;s not suddenly tout about how open-minded you <i>were</i> when we ran an instance together, because it&#8217;s not as if you were willing to oblige me with my suggestions, as indicated in the OP. Else, you would have gladly stopped using Earth Shock for something less aggro intensive, since it was directly brought up to you.</p>

<p>As for your second post, <i>bravo</i> on not reading the message about how your first comment won&#8217;t be posted until approved by an administrator and immediately posting again with an angrier tone. Never-mind your third comment, consisting only of &#8220;Fuck you,&#8221; which is exactly what I thought when I deleted it. Either way, you&#8217;re not gaining brownie points from any readers with your inability to converse maturely. No doubt, my post infuriated you, which is akin to my annoyance when you wiped or group time and time again because you wouldn&#8217;t take a reasonable suggestion or two. Arrogance is a bitch.</p>

<p>So onto totems. You don&#8217;t use them? Roll a new toon then, or simply don&#8217;t join a PUG without first telling them that you won&#8217;t use all the abilities at your disposal, <i ?particularly</i> those designed to aid the group. A Shaman, in a group, is a support class. Apparently, you haven&#8217;t learned that yet.</i></p>

<p>The reason you should support bile-spewing cretins? Because causing the group to wipe is doing nothing but wasting time and money. I <i>quite specifically</i> suggested what you could do to improve your (and the group&#8217;s) performance, but you chose not to comply, and instead reply rudely.</p>

<p>You&#8217;re Enhancement specced, which means you shouldn&#8217;t be blowing through your mana in the first place, especially if you&#8217;re pulling aggro. You <i>are</i> an off-healer by virtue of being a non-Restoration Shaman in a five-man group. This is not a role that needs to be assigned to you: it&#8217;s one you accept upon joining the group.</p>

<p>If you <i>do</i> want to talk further about this, I&#8217;m right here, baby.</p>

<p>Yours,
WyldKard</p>
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		<title>By: Oritakus</title>
		<link>http://beastwith.in/2007/05/17/look-ma-i-found-a-n3wb/comment-page-1/#comment-321</link>
		<dc:creator>Oritakus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 03:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You are an idiot. I don&#039;t use totems. That is simply my preference. why should I support a group of bile spewing cretins like you? you sit there, watching me make an idiot of myself. &quot;Hey shaman, drop some totems&quot; may have helped. or, &quot;Hey, save mana to heal if we need it&quot; you know, give me a clue. As you didn&#039;t tell me to do anything specific, I decided to just dps. unless you assign me the role of &quot;off-healer&quot; I&#039;m not going to conserve mana. Oh, and I (never having played a warrior) didn&#039;t realize how useless a fury warrior is at holding aggro from earth shock. Now I know to never let a fury warrior tank, lest I be stricken dead violently at every boss fight. None the less, thanks for posting this garbage on your little sight. gives me something to rant about when I typed my characters name into google just for fun. well, as it is I&#039;ve learned to stop being a noob shaman through trial and error. feel free to e-mail me if you want to argue or anything. but, meh. G&#039;night.      And yes, this IS the real Oritakus.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are an idiot. I don&#8217;t use totems. That is simply my preference. why should I support a group of bile spewing cretins like you? you sit there, watching me make an idiot of myself. &#8220;Hey shaman, drop some totems&#8221; may have helped. or, &#8220;Hey, save mana to heal if we need it&#8221; you know, give me a clue. As you didn&#8217;t tell me to do anything specific, I decided to just dps. unless you assign me the role of &#8220;off-healer&#8221; I&#8217;m not going to conserve mana. Oh, and I (never having played a warrior) didn&#8217;t realize how useless a fury warrior is at holding aggro from earth shock. Now I know to never let a fury warrior tank, lest I be stricken dead violently at every boss fight. None the less, thanks for posting this garbage on your little sight. gives me something to rant about when I typed my characters name into google just for fun. well, as it is I&#8217;ve learned to stop being a noob shaman through trial and error. feel free to e-mail me if you want to argue or anything. but, meh. G&#8217;night.      And yes, this IS the real Oritakus.</p>
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		<title>By: Oritakus</title>
		<link>http://beastwith.in/2007/05/17/look-ma-i-found-a-n3wb/comment-page-1/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Oritakus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 03:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why if it isnt another one of my kind. I assume you have 12 level 70&#039;s and know how PRECISELY everyone should play? not that I&#039;m angry for stumbling over this on google when I typed in my toon&#039;s name. However, I shall rant at this point. First off, it astounds me that you can play on the Maelstrom server. I mean, every other person is a nooblet with no clue. although i was not much better at the point of this article&#039;s conception, I have advanced in the knowledge of being a good shaman. It would help me greatly though, if every group I entered was not composed solely of retards. But alas, such is my fate. I admit, my actions were stupid. But you could say, &quot;Hey shaman, lay a flame tongue totem, please.&quot; and I would have had no problem obliging. As it is, I dislike totems and I don&#039;t use them when soloing. Maybe I&#039;m just crazy, but isn&#039;t Maelstrom RP? Ergo, there is no requirement for perfection. I don&#039;t use totems. I know of a hunter that never trained a pet. It&#039;s not about being a perfect little fucking robot. It&#039;s about having fun. And thanks for posting this lovely article about me. now hundreds of people stumbling the internet know my name and errors. But if you think I&#039;m bad, try grouping with Helloch, Augnon, Firerocket or Dfax. They give new meaning to &quot;dumbass&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;       Well, thanks for your opinion, and thanks for reading mine.    later ass-weasel
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why if it isnt another one of my kind. I assume you have 12 level 70&#8242;s and know how PRECISELY everyone should play? not that I&#8217;m angry for stumbling over this on google when I typed in my toon&#8217;s name. However, I shall rant at this point. First off, it astounds me that you can play on the Maelstrom server. I mean, every other person is a nooblet with no clue. although i was not much better at the point of this article&#8217;s conception, I have advanced in the knowledge of being a good shaman. It would help me greatly though, if every group I entered was not composed solely of retards. But alas, such is my fate. I admit, my actions were stupid. But you could say, &#8220;Hey shaman, lay a flame tongue totem, please.&#8221; and I would have had no problem obliging. As it is, I dislike totems and I don&#8217;t use them when soloing. Maybe I&#8217;m just crazy, but isn&#8217;t Maelstrom RP? Ergo, there is no requirement for perfection. I don&#8217;t use totems. I know of a hunter that never trained a pet. It&#8217;s not about being a perfect little fucking robot. It&#8217;s about having fun. And thanks for posting this lovely article about me. now hundreds of people stumbling the internet know my name and errors. But if you think I&#8217;m bad, try grouping with Helloch, Augnon, Firerocket or Dfax. They give new meaning to &#8220;dumbass&#8221;.</p>

<pre><code>       Well, thanks for your opinion, and thanks for reading mine.    later ass-weasel
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