Comments on: Green computers an oxymoron? http://beastwith.in/2008/04/23/green-computers-an-oxymoron/ A mental brouhaha, est. 1996. Wed, 23 May 2012 05:31:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Baby steps in green computing. | mendax.org http://beastwith.in/2008/04/23/green-computers-an-oxymoron/comment-page-1/#comment-417 Baby steps in green computing. | mendax.org Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:43:06 +0000 http://mendax.org/2008/04/23/green-computers-an-oxymoron/#comment-417 <p>[...] 29, 2008 A few months back, we commented on the slow baby-steps the computer industry is taking to green consumer computers, which comes across as one-part morality and one-part bandwagon-hopping at best. Take Dell’s [...]</p> [...] 29, 2008 A few months back, we commented on the slow baby-steps the computer industry is taking to green consumer computers, which comes across as one-part morality and one-part bandwagon-hopping at best. Take Dell’s [...]

]]> By: Gwaendar http://beastwith.in/2008/04/23/green-computers-an-oxymoron/comment-page-1/#comment-416 Gwaendar Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:27:32 +0000 http://mendax.org/2008/04/23/green-computers-an-oxymoron/#comment-416 <p>Two months late to the party since I'm too dense to remember my own passwords...</p> <p><i>Sure, environmentally friendly things are fine, but I would expect you to appreciate them silently, so as not to become one of the tree huggers that we’ve spent so much time ridiculing in the past.</i></p> <p>Look at it from a different perspective: green IT products consume less power and cooling and thus cost a lot less over their lifecycle. Cleaner materials cost less when the time comes to dispose of old equipment.</p> <p>The first element allows a business to reclaim some money otherwise tied up to merely "keeping the lights on", the second one either lowers government expenses if the government pays for recycling, or the manufacturer's costs if they do the paying, eg either lower taxes (or government deficit spending) or savings which can be passed back to the customer. In any case, a net positive impact on good old hard cash. If that's still tree hugging, so be it, but tree hugging might suddenly become a fad among pure good old fashioned conservative capitalists.</p> Two months late to the party since I’m too dense to remember my own passwords…

Sure, environmentally friendly things are fine, but I would expect you to appreciate them silently, so as not to become one of the tree huggers that we’ve spent so much time ridiculing in the past.

Look at it from a different perspective: green IT products consume less power and cooling and thus cost a lot less over their lifecycle. Cleaner materials cost less when the time comes to dispose of old equipment.

The first element allows a business to reclaim some money otherwise tied up to merely “keeping the lights on”, the second one either lowers government expenses if the government pays for recycling, or the manufacturer’s costs if they do the paying, eg either lower taxes (or government deficit spending) or savings which can be passed back to the customer. In any case, a net positive impact on good old hard cash. If that’s still tree hugging, so be it, but tree hugging might suddenly become a fad among pure good old fashioned conservative capitalists.

]]> By: Aelel http://beastwith.in/2008/04/23/green-computers-an-oxymoron/comment-page-1/#comment-415 Aelel Mon, 05 May 2008 04:06:58 +0000 http://mendax.org/2008/04/23/green-computers-an-oxymoron/#comment-415 <p>Okay... a few things first. I like the new Mendax format. Looks much better. I am, however, unhappy about the lack of an obvious comment link. I had to click on the article itself to see if there was a comment link and to see if there were other comments. Is there a way to change that?</p> <p>On the green side of things...ugh...when did you become a hippie? I thought you were an ultra-conservative hippie hater like me? Where's the normal German rage? I'm disappointed in you. Sure, environmentally friendly things are fine, but I would expect you to appreciate them silently, so as not to become one of the tree huggers that we've spent so much time ridiculing in the past. Besides, I have to wonder how environmentally friendly some of these "solutions" are. Where are they going to get all of the bamboo? Are they going to cut down forests to grow bamboo? Will it end up being just as disappointing "clean" fuel from corn?</p> <p>To end on a positive note... I like that you've finally written about something that doesn't involve WoW. Well done! :)</p> Okay… a few things first. I like the new Mendax format. Looks much better. I am, however, unhappy about the lack of an obvious comment link. I had to click on the article itself to see if there was a comment link and to see if there were other comments. Is there a way to change that?

On the green side of things…ugh…when did you become a hippie? I thought you were an ultra-conservative hippie hater like me? Where’s the normal German rage? I’m disappointed in you. Sure, environmentally friendly things are fine, but I would expect you to appreciate them silently, so as not to become one of the tree huggers that we’ve spent so much time ridiculing in the past. Besides, I have to wonder how environmentally friendly some of these “solutions” are. Where are they going to get all of the bamboo? Are they going to cut down forests to grow bamboo? Will it end up being just as disappointing “clean” fuel from corn?

To end on a positive note… I like that you’ve finally written about something that doesn’t involve WoW. Well done! :)

]]> By: WyldKard http://beastwith.in/2008/04/23/green-computers-an-oxymoron/comment-page-1/#comment-414 WyldKard Sat, 03 May 2008 18:51:44 +0000 http://mendax.org/2008/04/23/green-computers-an-oxymoron/#comment-414 <p>@Gwaendar It may not be just a fad at Dell, but there's still something odd about not seeing a single piece of text on Dell's front page about the movement.</p> @Gwaendar It may not be just a fad at Dell, but there’s still something odd about not seeing a single piece of text on Dell’s front page about the movement.

]]> By: Maxator http://beastwith.in/2008/04/23/green-computers-an-oxymoron/comment-page-1/#comment-413 Maxator Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:05:42 +0000 http://mendax.org/2008/04/23/green-computers-an-oxymoron/#comment-413 <p>Although the concept of a bamboo case is complete pandering to hippies, it is a step in the right direction. On a side note, I'm ecstatic to see a non-WoW related mendax article. And with pictures no less, you wild... kard. ;)</p> Although the concept of a bamboo case is complete pandering to hippies, it is a step in the right direction. On a side note, I’m ecstatic to see a non-WoW related mendax article. And with pictures no less, you wild… kard. ;)

]]> By: Gwaendar http://beastwith.in/2008/04/23/green-computers-an-oxymoron/comment-page-1/#comment-412 Gwaendar Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:10:46 +0000 http://mendax.org/2008/04/23/green-computers-an-oxymoron/#comment-412 <p><i>Why this information wasn’t more readily available on Dell’s front page is curious, and begs the question as to whether it truly has the whole company’s support.</i></p> <p>Considering Dell has started the Plant-a-tree initiative in January 2007, and Michael Dell has been relentless on the subject for a good year now, yes, the support's bound to be there. There's also regeneration.org about green thinking, and there's dozen of clips on YouTube of Michael and his execs talking about it. It's not just a fad.</p> Why this information wasn’t more readily available on Dell’s front page is curious, and begs the question as to whether it truly has the whole company’s support.

Considering Dell has started the Plant-a-tree initiative in January 2007, and Michael Dell has been relentless on the subject for a good year now, yes, the support’s bound to be there. There’s also regeneration.org about green thinking, and there’s dozen of clips on YouTube of Michael and his execs talking about it. It’s not just a fad.

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