Comments on: The lessons of a deceased Mage Knight. http://beastwith.in/2008/10/12/the-lessons-of-a-deceased-mage-knight/ A mental brouhaha, est. 1996. Thu, 24 May 2012 00:07:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Kragnorak http://beastwith.in/2008/10/12/the-lessons-of-a-deceased-mage-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-504 Kragnorak Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:48:06 +0000 http://mendax.org/2008/10/12/the-lessons-of-a-deceased-mage-knight/#comment-504 <p>Good article. However, it leaves something important out that has affected me greatly:</p> <p>The success of HeroClix can be attributed to the fact that many players look forward to finding specific characters in boosters. This takes pressure off of the game designers to constantly innovate. As a matter of fact, players complain when a new character is much more powerful than that character's friend/enemy from a decade ago. Luckily, the wealth of source material means that this is not occurring at the fast rate that Mage Knight 2.0 did.</p> <p>When I started trying these games, Mage Knight 2.0 was almost out, and I tried HeroClix and HorrorClix as well. Now, when I opened a Mage Knight pack, I might be excited by finding an orc or minotaur, but some of the characters meant little to me beyond their game abilities (dragonkin, etc.). There wasn't enough fluff for me to latch onto. When I found an interesting looking HeroClix, I was able to find material to read and excite my imagination: there was little work for WizKids to do when Marvel and DC were already writing comic books and making movies and cartoons!</p> <p>Now I collect primarily HeroClix STILL while my interest in the other game systems waned. WizKids are being extremely smart now as they experiment in releasing video game properties that are 100% compatible with the base game. This has me ordering Street Fighter and Halo clix (even though I ignored the last HaloClix game).</p> <p>For what it's worth, I still incorporate Mage Knight stuff into HeroClix games and scenarios: The trolls and undead are great for assisting Asgardians like Loki. The Mage Knight siege buildings are super fun to include on large maps! It is good to have objectives such as "smash the castle down" to deviate from the usual strategy game. Mage Knight Dungeons are good fun as well - I like to play with super heroes entering a dungeon filled with thugs and Hydra agents, it is like a City of Heroes crawl.</p> Good article. However, it leaves something important out that has affected me greatly:

The success of HeroClix can be attributed to the fact that many players look forward to finding specific characters in boosters. This takes pressure off of the game designers to constantly innovate. As a matter of fact, players complain when a new character is much more powerful than that character’s friend/enemy from a decade ago. Luckily, the wealth of source material means that this is not occurring at the fast rate that Mage Knight 2.0 did.

When I started trying these games, Mage Knight 2.0 was almost out, and I tried HeroClix and HorrorClix as well. Now, when I opened a Mage Knight pack, I might be excited by finding an orc or minotaur, but some of the characters meant little to me beyond their game abilities (dragonkin, etc.). There wasn’t enough fluff for me to latch onto. When I found an interesting looking HeroClix, I was able to find material to read and excite my imagination: there was little work for WizKids to do when Marvel and DC were already writing comic books and making movies and cartoons!

Now I collect primarily HeroClix STILL while my interest in the other game systems waned. WizKids are being extremely smart now as they experiment in releasing video game properties that are 100% compatible with the base game. This has me ordering Street Fighter and Halo clix (even though I ignored the last HaloClix game).

For what it’s worth, I still incorporate Mage Knight stuff into HeroClix games and scenarios: The trolls and undead are great for assisting Asgardians like Loki. The Mage Knight siege buildings are super fun to include on large maps! It is good to have objectives such as “smash the castle down” to deviate from the usual strategy game. Mage Knight Dungeons are good fun as well – I like to play with super heroes entering a dungeon filled with thugs and Hydra agents, it is like a City of Heroes crawl.

]]> By: Mark http://beastwith.in/2008/10/12/the-lessons-of-a-deceased-mage-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-503 Mark Sat, 30 Jul 2011 02:04:14 +0000 http://mendax.org/2008/10/12/the-lessons-of-a-deceased-mage-knight/#comment-503 <p>I scored a lot of 12 unopened booster packs on ebay the other day for like $20. I had a buttload of tough figures along with one that made me have a little twinkle in my eye; the Magestone Draconum. I'm really looking into getting back into this game. My friends and I used to go to a comic shop back in middle/high school and play Mage Knight and MTG every Friday night. So many good memories... Except of the one dick who would always find a Draconum during booster matches. Dude would often have doubles (or even triples) and wouldn't let anyone else have any. DOUUUUCHE.</p> I scored a lot of 12 unopened booster packs on ebay the other day for like $20. I had a buttload of tough figures along with one that made me have a little twinkle in my eye; the Magestone Draconum. I’m really looking into getting back into this game. My friends and I used to go to a comic shop back in middle/high school and play Mage Knight and MTG every Friday night. So many good memories… Except of the one dick who would always find a Draconum during booster matches. Dude would often have doubles (or even triples) and wouldn’t let anyone else have any. DOUUUUCHE.

]]> By: Eddie Orta http://beastwith.in/2008/10/12/the-lessons-of-a-deceased-mage-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-502 Eddie Orta Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:04:02 +0000 http://mendax.org/2008/10/12/the-lessons-of-a-deceased-mage-knight/#comment-502 <p>Now with Wiz Kids shutting down the Mage Knight website, i really am at a loss. I believe that it would be foolish to shut out the clix division. I am confident that there is a high demand for this game or something similar. A comeback would be awsome!</p> Now with Wiz Kids shutting down the Mage Knight website, i really am at a loss. I believe that it would be foolish to shut out the clix division. I am confident that there is a high demand for this game or something similar. A comeback would be awsome!

]]> By: Possible Mage Knight comeback? | mendax.org http://beastwith.in/2008/10/12/the-lessons-of-a-deceased-mage-knight/comment-page-1/#comment-501 Possible Mage Knight comeback? | mendax.org Fri, 23 Jan 2009 03:26:37 +0000 http://mendax.org/2008/10/12/the-lessons-of-a-deceased-mage-knight/#comment-501 <p>[...] the news entirely that the Clix line of collectible miniatures is now dead. While Mage Knight was discontinued by WizKids some time ago, the system behind the game lived on, primarily through the HeroClix line. [...]</p> [...] the news entirely that the Clix line of collectible miniatures is now dead. While Mage Knight was discontinued by WizKids some time ago, the system behind the game lived on, primarily through the HeroClix line. [...]

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